Other-Focused Lies are directed at another person and are usually told with the good intention of the deceiver.
Self-Fouced Lies may be directed at any person, but are told for the purpose of benefitting or protecting the person telling the lie.
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Broadly speaking there are 3 response phases after a lie is told.
Phase One: Emotional Response:
When a lie is told the liar will feel some form of emotion depending on
how serious the lie is. Some people are great at lying because they can
detatch from lies and feel no emotion. But most people will feel
emotion. These emotions can be fear,guilt, stress or on occasion
excitment.
Phase Two: Sympathetic Nervious
Response: The impact of guilt,fear or stress on the liar will cause
'decent clues' things like fidgeting,finger tapping, talking too
quickly, avoiding eye contact, rapid eye movement, dry mouth ect.
Phase Three: Cognitive
Response: When the liar realises the Sympathetic Nervous Resonse and
tries to make a counter-measusre. Things like gripping hands to stop
finger tapping or making more eye contact because they broke eye
contact when lying.
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Recent studies show that 55% of communucating is non-verbal, while 38%
is is vocal (how things are said) and 7% is purely verbal.
The same study suggested that we are not designed to catch lies or
detect them. A group of neuro-scientists suggested that we aren't built
to detect lies because in our primal stages of development we lived in
very close quartes (tribes), and cheating and acts like that were not
common because you just wouldnt be able to get away with it and if you
did you would be outcast or killed.
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MAGIC
This module was built so you could go through the steps and so there was an easy way to remember how to detect lies.
Motivation: does the person have a motivation to lie.
Ask Control Questions, to
establish a baseline: When you initally turn on your 'lieradar', observe
the verbal and non-verbal responses to Control Questions - ones the
person will answer truthfully. This will give you a behavioural
baseline. ( same thing is used when you get polygraphed, thats why they
ask your name and stuff, to determine your normal heart rate)
Guilt Questions : To identify a
liar you need to first provide the opportunityto lie. For this to
occur, you must ask a Guilt Question or two - subtly! This is best done
in a normal conversation as it denies the opportunity for the person to
hide deciet clues from you.
Indicators: Are there lying
indicators that stand out to you, fromthe baseline behaviour you
observed when asking the Control Questions.
Check again. If you wanna be
sure and not look like an idiot repeat those steps and if you get the
same response as before (presuming they're lying) then you know they are
lying.
Ok guys if you are asking me how do I know that I will just answer that my best
friend(she) is studying a lot about psychology,especially at women.And I just
had a lots of experiences,good and bad,now I will try to help you to understand
how liars weapon can be used against him.This will help you to catch someone
while lying…These tricks are widely used even during police questioning,so make
sure to use it wisely.
Opposite firing technique is a technique which implies using grouply most
common features of liars,sorted by gender,against them to catch them into their
own net of lies,set them a trap and,if possible,make them to confess the
truth.(credits to my best friend for this definition,do not ask me for her
name,cause I will not answer)
Now I will specify you some tricks which can help you to catch someone while
he/she is trying to lie to you:
MALE LIARS
Ok lets say that you are trying to catch male liar,this tips may help you:
- talk calmly and patiently,if he is trying to interrupt you just continue to
talk and make sure to stay calm,with strong focus on your questions
- tell him to look your eyes if he really haven’t done that
- tell him to answer only your questions,not to go around and avoid truth
- if you see that he is nervous in any way,like shaking
hands,yawning,distracting attention,scratching…just ask him:”Why are you so
nervous when you did nothing?I just don’t get it…”
- pretend that you are not so intelligent as you are,make sure to never show
him that you are superior with your intelligence,and never even mention that
you know these kinda techniques
- if you spot that he is talking very fast and offensive,just tell him that
there is no need to be aggressive and restless,tell him to slow down so you can
understand what is he talking :hehe:
- get close to him,hug him,just say there is no need to be afraid,you “trust
him he has nothing to do with it”…and in one moment just touch his neck or
heart and you will notice that if heartbeat and sweeting level are higher,you
will be more reasons to be suspicious
- if he agrees with you,just tell him:”How can you agree with something you
haven’t done?”
- if he is answering with your question by question,just say:”I don’t want
questions,I want answers.”,and make sure to stay calm,he will fall into your
trap
- if he is repeating that you have to believe him,just say:”I don’t understand
why are you repeating that word so many times…”,cause in most cases this can be
great defensive mechanism
- make sure to follow everything he says,if you have possibility write on a
piece of paper or do maximal focusing and remember his words,believe me only if
he is a pro liar he will not make any of these mistakes
- the most important is to piss him off with your calmness,males are mostly
hard to handle calm persons
- try to ask him same question multiple times,in period of 3-5 minutes,there is
a great possibility that he will forget what he said if he is not a pro
- if he wants an explanation,the best answer would probably be:”I asked
first,so that means you go first.If you explain me,I will explain you.”
- Never let him lead the conversation,he won’t be able to yell whole time,just
be extremely patient and talk normally,try not to raise your voice and
especially do not look nervous or argue
- If you notice smile on his face while looking him in the eyes,this could be a
sign that something is suspicious,but not necessarily has to mean that he is
lying
- If he is on a close distance,make sure to walk around the room or walk
back,try to confuse him,for example tell:”Oh,how this room wonderful is!”,or
anything that has nothing to do with subject,this will draw his attention
- Tell him to explain you EXACTLY what happened in specific order and how,with
as many details as he remember…only if he is professional he will be able to do
that
- Ask him some provocative questions,for example:”Why are you scratching your
balls?”,”Why are you so nervous?”,”Why are you looking all over the room,you
are talking to me,not to the walls?”; and many,many other questions that you
will be able to think up…I believe in you,you are smart,I ain’t doubt your
intelligence!
FEMALE LIARS
Ok now some suggestions to catch female liar:
- you will need to cut her every time,but never be aggressive…for example if
she is saying that you are too aggressive,just say:”I am not aggressive,I am
just trying to talk to you…Now can you please tell me what happened?”
Cutting is a mechanism which will not allow you to confront with a liar and
feel pitty and sorry for him.It is based on giving answers,asking questions or
telling sentences which will disallow any influence on your personality caused
by a liar.For example,she may try to avoid conversations,talk around,saying you
nice words…pretend that you really ain’t give a fuck what is she saying…and
this can be great example of cutting.
- if she is giving you compliments,just say:”We are not here to talk about my
look and features.We are talking about…”
- don’t symphatize with her cause she has perfect ass,perfect look,cause she is
extraordinary pretty,cause you would f*ck her…forget about that,this can also
be their weapon
- if she is touching you,just pretend that you like the touch(in most cases you
won’t have to pretend) and then just hug her and make sure to touch her neck or
feel heart beat,if it is faster than normal or she is shaking,she is
suspicious,than gently unhug her and continue asking,she will think that she
influented you,but she didn’t :hehe:,cause you are smarter
- if she is refusing to talk to you,you will have to simulate that you feel
sorry for her,that you are sorry for being so rough and so on…you will have to
show compassion and similar stuff,but believe me if she refuses to talk,than it
is hard,and I cannot guarantee that this will work
SPOTTING A LIAR
COMMON KNOWLEDGE: It has been said over the years that there are some certain
things that help you find out if someone is lying or not. Pupil dialates,
heartbeats raise, voice frequency is lowered, etc. The truth is that you can't
base on these facts. Why?
Simply because you can't notice any diffenence on an individual. It is not
possible to see if one's pupil dialates or not and accusing him of lying cause
you just can't, sight does not have the ability to do it. Nevertheless, if you
try testing these facts you will either end up making a fool of yourself or
mistaken. However, there are more sophisticated ways to spot a liar wich I am
going to mention.
MALE/FEMALE: In this guide, I thought that it would be better if I posted
different instruction for each sex, since there is a difference between a male
and a female liar. Male liars tend to be more anxious when it comes to lying,
while females are calmer and handle the situation with a better attitude. We
will lok further on it.
~MALE LIAR~
LIAR'S DEFENSES: First of all, the number one defense of a male liar is that he
won't let you talk. He is too afraid of your possible uncovering the truth that
he will keep distracting you. Another technique is that he holds a close
distance with you. He tries to look more friendly and avoids to look at your
eyes (that doesn't me that he never looks at them, don't get confused). Also,
he may fold his hands to protect himself, but he only does that when you're
talking. He doesn't move from his position and most of the time, if he's still
calm, he concetrates on something. Other techniques have been mentioned, such
as yawning, scratching his head or something similar to show that the subject
you are currently talking about is not worrying him as he is sure for what he
says. However, these techs are used by not so experienced liars and they almost
always get caught.
LIAR'S ATTACKS: Offense for a male liar is his favorite approach. Men, by
nature, have a characteristic that women don't; they are much more offensive.
So, a male liar has developed a series of attacks that intimidate the slave or
scare him/her away. First, he talks much faster than he usually does. It has
been proved that talking to a person with a higher pace than normal her/his
heartbeats raise and he gets more anxious. Thus, liars do that to scare the
slave and also, in some cases, to show their certainty. In addition, a liar
always yells. Raising his voice will help him boost his determination and
retain himself in a level that can fight you and win. However he tries not to
yell at you. What I mean is that he doesn't want you to feel opposed to him, he
wants you to move along with him. So, he tries to look friendly and usually
smiles. At some points he will even agree with you which is definitely not a
good sign. The majority of people are too stubborn to agree with someone they
argue with. When that happens, be a little more careful. Moreover, he tries to
put a lot of pressure on you. He does that by asking you a lot of questions and
being ironic with your answer. He will never try to hurt you, he won't even
threat you. All he wants is to believe him and he knows that if he tries to do
it he will instantly lose the game. So, he makes you vulnerable, he tires you
with his repetative questions, his voice, his words, to that point that you
believe him just to end this. He confuses you so much that your brain can't
work properly or doesn't work at all, so, to avoid making a fool of yourself or
because you think you don't have anything else to say you agree with him. I
believe that's all, except some minor details.
COUNTER TECHNIQUES: Let's say the person who tries to deceive you uses some of
the above techniques. There are a few things you can do to deflect these moves
and use them for your own good. Depending on the situation, you can raise a
mental barrier against his attacks. Below there's a list of things you can do
on each ofthese possibilities:
* He puts pressure on you:
1. If he talks faster than he usually does, tell him to slow down. Even if he's
not doing it on purpose, he will lose his train of thought and it won't be easy
to come up with a lie to cover his other lie. So, when you do that, make sure
to ask to be more specific, to explain you the situation and either one of
these things follow: Either he can't come up with something to cover him and he
talks nonsence or he busts himself by uncovering the truth. Thus, there's a
realy high chance to counter his attack and win.
2. He might try to press you with a lot of questioning. If he does that, answer
to him with questions. Don't be specific -you don't have to be anyway- and he
will be pissed off in no time. And when he is pissed off, his mind can't
function correctly so he has to get confused. As you may have noticed, the main
idea of these counter techniques is to confuse the liar. If you achieve that
then you should be able to uncover him. However, don't get complacent with the
questions cause you might end up confusing yourself. Just be very patient and
things will work out.
3. There is a chance that he will try to ask you to explain things to him. It's
not that he doesn't understand what you're saying, he just wants to annoy you.
If that happens (although most of the time it doesn't) there's not realy a
counter tech you can use. This is more like a tip for you. Whatever it is he
wants it to be explained just explain to him. When he sees that his move isn't
working he'll drop it and try other ways to press you.
* He intimidates you:
1. The first move that the liar thinks intimidates you the most is raising the
tone of his voice. Men have been proved to be the most egocentric species on
the planet (I don't think that anyone of you denies this). Thus, if one's voice
is the only one that can be heard he thinks that he is some kind of a leader to
the conversation. Anyways, if he tries to yell you can either yell more or tell
him to quiet down. I suggest the latter cause it shows that you're the calm one
and that you have no concerns about the argument. In addition, if you tell him
to quiet down he himslef will feel that he's overreacting and then, the fact
that he's lying will be easier to spot. Nevertheless, if he yells more after
your interference, you should consider the possibility that he might be telling
the truth. So, be more cautious on that part.
2. Staring somebody's eyes is always intimidating. Even if you are not scared,
subconciously you feel threatened. If he tries to stare at your eyes (since we
said that it's unlikely to do that for that long, except if he's an experienced
liar) you should stare at his eyes too. Try to reflect this fear that he tries
to pass on and you will achieve that either if he looks away or he laughs. This
may sound weird but laughing is most commonly what betrays liars. If he laughs,
I can guarantee that he is lying. Shit, I'll even chop my dick off and throw it
on a volcano if he isn't. It's that simple; he laughs, he's lying.
3. If he's holding a close distance with you, you can always walk back, in a
way that he doesn't understand why you're doing it. For example, you can
pretend that you have a shoelace to tie, a book to lift, etc. You will think of
something. However, what I do and I absolutely recommend it is to tell a joke.
Not any joke though, you can't say: "Which animal can jump higher than a
house? All, houses can't jump". You can try things like "Are you
gonna kiss me?" or "I can smell your breakfast". Yeah, I know,
the house joke was lame.
* He confuses you:
1. I can assure you this is not an attack a liar will rely on. He may try that if
he's desperate but he will most likely fail. This method is about being very
general. He will refuse to be more specific and he will talk just to confuse
you. However, this is a suicide technique cause you can easily find ou that
he's lying. One little mistake and he's done. So, using confusion as his main
attack is not something you will encounter.
WHAT BLOWS HIS COVER:
Below there's a list in which there are several things that you have to
remember if you want to spot a liar without getting in the whole
Attacking/Counter-Attacking process. These tips will help you turn your
suspicions into a decision and they are very important. So, the best thing you
can do is memorize them.
NOTE: This list is only for inexperienced liars, experienced liars will not
make these mistakes.
1. Missing his words.
2. Shaking his voice.
3. Constantly moving
4. Avoiding looking at your eyes AT ALL.
5. Keeping a long distance from you (it makes him feel safer).
6. Studdering
7. Making nervous moves.
-e.g.- My father once had to lie to one of his patient's sons and I can't tell
you how nervous he was. He pulled the safety belt so fast that it actually
stuck. Thank God the guy was too stupid to understand he was lying.
8. Scratching. Scratching his head, hand, chest, stomache, etc, is definitely a
sign. Except of scartching his balls.
~FEMALE LIAR~
LIAR'S DEFENSES: Women use different techniques to defend themselves. This is
due to their nature, they tend to be more soft and sensitive. Thus, they try to
look defensless (which is kind of ironic) and make you believe that you're
putting a lot of pressure on them. Doing that makes you feel guilty and you
sympathize with the liar. When you do that, it's almost certain that you're
going to be deceived, so be careful not to hit their defenses.
Another common defense female liars use is "dead silence". They just
stop talking to you. There's a procedure after that in which, if you're not
careful, you're gonna get screwed:
[1] Liar stops talking to you.
[2] You keep asking her questions. Again she's not talking.
[3] You get irritated but you put that "I'm so pissed right now"
smile on your face.
[4] You're realy angry and you start yelling. She keeps ignoring you.
[5] You're starting to understand that the only way to get her to talk to you
is be softer and sympathize with her. So, you do it.
Those in red are the dangerous parts, be extremely cautious. I recommend you
put your ego aside and just stop talking too.
NOTE: This method is only used when female liars are convinced that you have
kind of understood that she's lying.
LIAR'S ATTACKS: The attacking technique most commonly used by female liars is
alluring. By using their feminine nature they manipulate you to believe
everything they say. Now, I'm not implying that they just talk and you agree to
everything they say. Certain SE skills are required to use this advantage,
otherwise they're just going to fail real hard.
What female liars do is use their attractiveness to make you nervous. This
doesn't necessarily include looks, even their attitude can be alluring. Let's
say your belief is a stronghold which will try to block any attack. Now, male
liars will just attempt to break the door. However, female liars are more
sneaky, they will explore the stronghold in circles until the find a little
whole where they can penetrate to your stronghold. Once in, the only thing left
to do is cut the rope that holds the door. After that it's all over.
COUNTER TECHNIQUES: I have mentioned what female liars do to attack your psychological
stronghold. Now, there are a few things you can do to counter-attack them and
keep yourself clear for any further attacks. Be very cautious though, cause
this is more like a psychological war, you must be prepared to lose.
* She tries to allure you:
Don't take any shit. She will mostly try to copliment you, commend on your
clothes, eyes, hands etc before she starts talking to you. However, it's very
difficult for her to do it without you questioning whether shes kissing ass or
not. So, my tip is take everything as asskissing. Don't offend her, just hold
an ironic stance against her. Show that you're not falling for anything and,
every now and then, tell her to get to the point. She will see that you're not
playing game and she'll try to find a new way to convince you. However, it's
gonna be very difficult for her since you reflected her main attack.
You should better work on that CT cause you have the highest chances to beat
the liar and keep yourself clean.
* She tries to look helpless:
When she does that, your reaction trully depends on your character. If you're
not that soft, you can always tell her to stop. Showing that you don't care how
pitiful she is will make her stop trying. However, you may be the soft
character and, subconciously, sympathize with her. For your own good, DO NOT
FALL INTO THAT TRAP. Always remember that she's doing it on purpose, she wants
to make you vulnerable. That's a rule you should never break.
WHAT BLOWS HER COVER:
Below there's a list in which there are several things that you have to
remember if you want to spot a liar without getting in the whole
Attacking/Counter-Attacking process. These tips will help you turn your
suspicions into a decision and they are very important. So, the best thing you
can do is memorize them.
NOTE: This list is only for inexperienced liars, experienced liars will not
make these mistakes.
1. Staring at your eyes.
2. Constantly smiling.
3. Touching your hand or chest.
4. Putting her hair behid her ears. It shows she's nervous with the situation
and can't cope with lying.
5. Moving her body without moving her position.
6. Missing her words.
7. Shaking her voice.
8. Studdering.
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That's all for now, feel free to add anything you feel it needs to be added.
One of the most crucial parts of dating is the ability to
tell is someone is telling you crap. You have to learn how to tell if someone
is lying because based on that, you will be able to determine if you’re getting
into a bad relationship.
Even those who are not in a serious relationship don’t appreciate being lied
to. As a matter of fact, no one wants to get lied to.
We all want the truth—even if it hurts. Lies will make you feel like a fool. Lies are most likely made during seduction
There are certain instances where lying is prevalent. People most likely lie
during certain events. One of them is during seduction.
Let’s say a man is trying to date a really attractive woman. His desire will
push him to do everything he can to get the woman’s attention. He’d lie about
certain things if he had to just so he can impress that lady.
You must know how to tell if someone is lying to avoid falling prey to lying
jerks. Nothing good will happen if you get into a relationship with a person
who weaves lies. You’re better off without them.
In addition, if you don’t know how to spot lying signs, you will get duped
by men all the time.
Although there are no universal rules when it comes to identifying someone
who is lying, here are some hints that would help you learn how to tell if
someone is lying:
A person who’s lying is more
likely to twitch in the middle of his speech.
Those who lie all the time
are usually very aware of the things they say. They don’t make any
mistakes with any of the stuff they are saying because they rehearsed it
really well in fear of getting found out. So if you’re talking to someone
who’s babbling and seem to say everything perfectly, there is a high
probability that they are lying.
One of the most common ways
on how to tell if someone is lying is looking at the person’s eyes. You
can almost certainly tell if someone’s lying when they can’t look you
straight in the eyes. Though in some cultures eye contact is
disrespectful, and that person could be trying to be polite. You still
need to consider other lying signs just to be sure.
Check if the person is
strongly opposed to answering any question. Someone who’s too defensive
could be trying to hide something.
Learning the ways on how to tell if someone is lying is a very important
skill to have in everyday interactions. This will reduce the chances of getting
ridiculed, rejected, and duped. In dating, this is a VERY potent weapon. So
start honing your lie detection skills now.
•When people lie there expressions are not usually too expressive and will tend
not move there arms and hands alot or they fidget to much and move nonstop.
•They will avoid eye contact or keep to much eye contact .
•Scratching there noses or behind the ears and constantly touching there face,
mouth or throat is a pretty good indicator that they are probably lying.
•Some one who purse's there lips alot can indicate withholding information,
extreme anxiety or withholding aggression. When someones lips become dry and
they keep licking there lips it indicates that you are nervous.
• Another thing to look out for is if let's say John, John's best friend just
died and yet John when asked if he is sad he says yes while smiling. He is
probably not telling the truth.
• When someone lies they are not comfortable with silence because that means
they do not know if there lie was accepted or not. So if you suspect someone of
lying don't reply and see what there reactions are.
Reactions Of a liar
•When some one is innocent he/she will often go on the offensive but a guilty
person usually gets defensive.
•Liars usually place there feet facing towards a exit.
• A liar usually tries to distance themselves from you by putting something
in-between you and him/her.
•A liar will usually be uncomfortable when being questioned or accused and may
turn away or turn his head away from the person.
•Liars(well basically every one) tend to look up to the right to
think,visualize or create a new responce. So look out for that.
Verbal speech
and context
•A liar will usually answer your question with your question.
Example:
You: Did you eat my sandwich?
Liar: No, I did not eat your sandwich
•Liars usually go into much too much detail that they would not usually say.
•Liars have longer pauses and shorter answers and longer times between a
question and a response compared to some one who is just nervous.
• A almost sure fire way to know if they are lying is if they answer questions
that have not been asked and over answer question that have been answered.
• Liars tend to use negative's rather then positive's. They may say stuff like
'I am not a liar
while some one honest would more likely say ' I am a honest person'.
Tricks of a
liar
•A good way to spot a liar is if you are accusing him/her, he/she will accuse
you of the thing you are accusing them of in order to get the heat taken off of
themselves. Even people that know this trick still get caught by it because you
will become defensive yourself and explain that you have done nothing.
• Say some one was accused of cheating, the liar might reply with something
like '' I have never slept with that woman''
.
explanation of that^ what liars will do is try to distance themselves from
whatever they are lying about.
A few tests to
see if some one is Lying to you
•Change the topic and see how easily the liar reacts such as relaxing and
looking less stressed.
• If you think he might be giving fake info ask him little detailed questions.
It will probably take him a bit to come up with a answer.
• Another thing you can do fallowing the trick above is ask him the same
question a while later and if the story varies then he/she was lying.
I am probably going to add more later this I just
wanted to get this tut out hope you guys like it :)
DISCOVER HER PERSONALITY TYPE AND MAKE SURE TO KNOW ABOUT HER A LOT MORE
THAN SHE WILL EVER KNOW ABOUT YOU:
E Extraverion
People who prefer Extraversion tend to focus on the outer world of people and
things.
or
I Introverion
People who prefer Introversion tend to focus on the inner world of ideas and
impressions.
S Sensing
People who prefer Sensing tend to focus on the present and the concrete
information gained from their senses.
or
N iNtuition
People who prefer Intuition tend to focus on the future, with a view toward
patterns and possibilities.
T Thinking
People who prefer Thinking tend to base their decisions on logic and objective
analysis of cause and effect.
or
F Feeling
People who prefer Feeling tend to base their decisions primarily on values and
on subjective evaluation of person-centered concerns.
J Judgement
People who prefer Judgment tend to like a planned and organized approach to
life and prefer to have things settled. They are more scheduling with thier
activities. J types prefer "the destination" over "the
journey".
or
P Perception
People who prefer Perception tend to flexible and spontaneous approach to life
and things settled. They are less scheduling with their activities and prefer
to keep their options open. They are more probing with their activities.
"P" types prefer "the journey" over "the
destination".
Hope this helps you understand people
I thought this was "The greatest idea since sliced bread". I'm not
kidding, I literally carried around a notebook and asked people about the test.
About a week past and I realized something. Men and women think very
differently, so to subject them to the same test would not only be stupid and
wrong, but carrying around this notebook was not going to help me with what I
wanted. What i wanted was to be able to understand people's personallity type
and use that to learn and comprehend what they were thinking, and how they went
about thinking.
What I found was that men were easy to understand, you ask a question and
they... we answer "logically" and "truthfully". Women seem
to be a bit weirded out when you're acting like interviewer and are asking them
79 questions that are completely random. The system is also faulty, there are
literally 5 questions on this test which change for the average person 3 times
a day. It only takes one question marked a different way to give a seperate
personallity type.
Would you try to gain respect from your parents the same way you would from
your girlfriend? Of CoURSE not! So you wouldn't do the same thing around an
istp, an inward experiencer, as you would an enfj, who is an outward idealist.
My idea is much more accurate, and honestly will make it easy for you to read
his/her personallity, but not only will it be more effective, accurate, less
creepy, and less slow, it's also automatic. No joke, as soon as you realize the
method you will be meeting someone and the method will go through your head and
pick up on offhand comments and interests faster than a google search for porn.
This is more accurate for women than men by the way. With this simple method
you will learn how to read people and understand why they do what they do, even
to the point you can predict the future (I make money simply betting my friends
a dollar that so and so will break up/not make it because I know their personas
don't mix, and so I have a steady income of 8 dollars a month lol). This leads
to confidence in yourself by the way. And hey, if you know what makes a person
tick, why can't you place yourself at the head of her world?
Some personallity's need a challenge, be one, while others are secretly
mourning, be there for her, because unless you can pick up on what she's
telling you without her saying it you won't know. Have you ever had that friend
you know must feel a little agitated because you spend so much time around
them, but you can't help it, you're drawn to them for some reason, and you
don't even know what it is? Imagine being able to make any woman feel the same
way for you.
Imagine it.
PERSUASION
bet many of you have tried to
trick someone to comprehending with you. It's not an easy task since trust
isn't given but earned. In this guide you will find some tips to ease you.
PREPARATION
Plan: Before you start a conversation with your slave you should think of how
to approach him. You can have either one of the following stances:
Offensive stance: If you have a lot of knowledge on the subject and good
opinions to back it up you should keep this stance. Intimidate the listener,
interrupt him every now and then and prove that you have more knowledge than he
does.
Example: You are nuclear physician and you know a lot about atoms and physics.
Someone is telling you something wrong about fusion, and you know that he is
wrong! You are attacking him with facts and knowledge, his chances are zero.
Defensive stance: Listen to what the slave has to say, let him finish and give
hime the idea that he's winning the argument. Then, pose a question to him/her
that will get him to doubt himself. However, don't get carried away cause if he
speaks too much, HE/SHE will keep an offensive stance and you're generally
screwed.
Example: You know less than somebody, but he doesn't believe in himself. You
just say when he finishes, and then find something that will make him doubt at
himself. If nothing happens, at least you got time and made him unsure of
himself.
Ironic stance: If you answer ironically to the slave's ideas and thoughts he/will
get angry and lose it, which means he/she will start making a fool of
himself/herself. Then he/she will get worried and almost everything he/she says
won't make sense. There's your chance for counter attack. Just try not to look
like an idiot.
Example: You are arrogant, ironic, behaving suspiciously to everything, always
saying something like "O,yeah..." and similar stuff.You are simply
"higher than your opponent". If someone is telling you for example
that you are stupid, and you have your IQ test with yourself, this is great
chance for this kind of behaviour.
Co-operative stance: This depends on the listener you're dealing with. When
arguing, you can try agreeing with his ideas and giving him/her the wrong idea
that he/she is winning. You can even try praising him/her for his beliefs.
After that, the listener will be flattered, thus, vulnerable. That's when you
strike. However, this way is very difficult and complex so it's not recommended
for people who aren't really into Social Engineering.
Example: You know that he is wrong, but you confirm everything he says, giving
compliments and so on... Like a thunder, you change your stance with your heavy
facts that he will never be able to break. You gave him fake belief that he is
winning.
Note: It is always better if you know a lot more than your opponent.
OBSTACLES YOU MIGHT COME ACROSS
Belief Conflict: First of all there will be a conflict between you and your
listener's beliefs. It's not easy to persuade a Muslim that Allah is not real
and that God is our only divide power (though even I don't believe this). So,
trying to change somebody's mind on subjects he has built his life on is not
recommended.
Example: any religious question - my example is that many of them tried to fool
me cause I believe in reincarnation, and live in Serbia, that is simply not normal
to them, but honestly I don't give a fuck about their opinion.
Knowledge: Before you try starting a conversation with the listener you must
take his knowledge about the subject into consideration. If you're trying to
argue with a NASA scientist about Earth's orbit or comets' speed you're
obviously about to fail (and look like an idiot). Try to use topics in which
you have a particular knowledge so you can overwin the listener and finally
convince him.
Example: Someone is arguing with you about your specialized area( mine is
sports training) and he is an actor, who never trained anything in his life.
His chances are very, very small.
Skeptics: That's definitely the worst case scenario. Skeptics are people who
doubt almost everything you want to tell them. If your listener is one of them
then your chances of convincing him will be minimum. So, if you're not
experienced enough you'de better avoid making a conversation with him cause it
will end up with you wasting your time.
Example: You are saying that the Earth turns round the Sun. Everybody knows
that you are right, but he simply never heard of that. And he is very
suspicious. Provide him strong evidences, or no chance to success.
WAYS TO OVERCOME THE OBSTACLES - COUNTER TECHNIQUES
Shaking His Existing Belief: If the listener doesn't have much knowledge on the
subject you can shake his/her existing belief and substitute your own. You can
accomplish that by using countering facts and holding a co-operative stance
against him/her.
Undermine His Knowledge Base: When the listener has a certain knowledge about
the subject he/she uses it as a shield to defend himdself by any possible
"belief threats". To bring this shield down you have to do something
very simple. Convince him that you know more than him. By using false, but
believable facts you will make the listener doubt his own, even if he's doing
that subconciously. When you get to that point, forget about passing on your
idea and try to make sure that your listener is convinced that you know more
than he/she does. The rest is easy and up to you.
Program His Subconscious Mind: You can achieve this by reapeating again and
again your idea. This method is a part of the mind-programming skill.
Example: You are telling someone, during the argument, if he is saying for
example that bunnies are ougly, you will say that bunnies are cute. Normally
talk to him, and after every 3-5 minutes tell that bunnies are cute, but make
sure to sound normally and as much relaxed as you can. His subconscious will
SURELY register this, but that doesn't have to mean that he will change his
opinion.
Provide Proof for the Skeptic: There isn't much to do in this situation than
providing legitimate proof to the skeptic. If you can't do that then there
isn't anything else to do, you believe your own ideas, he/she does the same and
life goes on.
Believing in Your Idea: Apart from manipulating the listener there is one thing
you must apply to yourself. Believe in your ideas. If you're trying to pass an
idea that even you don't believe in it then I can guarantee you will fail. When
you have faith on what you're talking about the whole process will be easier
for you.
Repetition and the Law of Attraction: There have been several experiments on
that via TV over the last few years. Particularly, there was a banned comercial
of the Coca-Cola company which only showed the logo of the product for 1
second. That's it. However, every person who watched this commercial wanted to
buy a coca-cola. That happened because subconciously, the mind kept telling the
individual that he needed the product. That's exactly what you're going to do.
Every now and then, you're gonna talk to the listener about your idea for just
a few seconds or minutes. Thus, he is going to think your subject for the rest
of the day. Even if he doesn't want to.
Example: You are talking to the girl, and she is saying that she knows that she
is not cute. On every minute or two, you will tell her that she is, but not
directly every time. Her subconscious will register this for sure if you repeat
enough times. Just be warn, if she registers you as a boring person, you won't
have chances.
Social conversations, charisma and
reading people tips
Introduction
Social conversation and appearing is one of the most vital aspects in social
engineering and every day interaction. Charisma is strength, and while charisma
is largely natural, it is possible to do certain things to appear more
charismatic.
Shortly said, this post is about making yourself appear more appealing and
reading others.
Visual thinkers: These kinds of people
think by visualizing things. They commonly describe things in the following
way:
“Do you see what I mean?”
“The way I look at things.”
Auditory thinkers: These kinds of people
think by hearing. They commonly describe things in the following way:
“Do you hear what I mean?”
“The way it sounds to me is.”
Kinesthetic thinkers: These kinds of
people describe things by how they feel. They commonly describe things in the
following way:
“Do you feel the same as I about that?”
“The way I feel about this is”
Not everyone is confined to a single way of thinking. People may express
themselves differently depending on the subject. When it is a more emotionally
taxing thing they talk about, they are more likely to enter the kinesthetic
mode of thinking. When listening to music, they adopt auditory thinking.
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Confidence: Confidence is very important,
but it is not just something you learn from one day to the next. So do not
focus as much on increasing your confidence, but rather on the things that will
make you a more socially appealing person, and with the different reactions
people will show towards you, your confidence will grow substantially. Now, to
the things that will make you more appealing, on a social level. It is mostly about
reading body language though.
Pupils: The pupils of a person dilate when
they are interested in something. Keep this in mind when choosing the topic of
conversation.
Eye Contact: Eye contact is necessary, but
must not be persistent. If you stare into someone’s eyes for too long, they may
feel intimidated and uncomfortable.
Regular eye contact is most common in Western culture, so keep that in mind.
Certain kinds of people may prefer for you to not look into their eyes. I will
give some examples of such cultures below.
The Islamic people try not to focus on eyes or the faces of people.
In East Asia, eye contact is also avoided. The
Japanese people for example feel uncomfortable with lengthy eye contact.
Persistent eye contact can be avoided by letting your eyes travel, to the left
and right, or down. Depending on the situation, it may be unadvisable to look
down when speaking to women, especially when they wear revealing shirts. It may
be interpreted as looking at their breasts.
Mood and eyes: It's possible to see hints
of a persons mood in their eyes in combination with their forehead and eyelids.
A good mood, assuming you do not have wrinkled skin, has an uncreased brow.
When sad, your eyes seem more distant, and you are more prone to stare into the
distance, with your eyelids at a lower position than usual.
Lying and Eye Contact: Staring into
someone’s eyes persistently can be interpreted as a sign of lying, so can
looking away quickly. This may not always be the case, that when someone looks
away they are lying. It is a combination of various factors, having to do with
exhaustion, awkwardness, and many other things.
Direction into which the person looks:
Looking to the left: The person is
thinking of the past or trying to remember something.
Looking to the right: The person is
thinking of something to say. This may also hint towards a lie, because it is
more related to creating something that recalling a memory from the past.
Up and left: Recalling a memory. Up and right: Creating an answer.
For some people, this may be reversed. You can figure this out by asking
questions like “How do you feel about the president?” Regularly, the person
would look up and right or right, but if they look left or up and left, then
their eye movement is reversed.
Modes of thinking and eye position
Visual thinking: Eyes move upwards to
either side. They may also look straight ahead, unfocused.
Auditory thinking: They will look
sideways.
Kinesthetic thinking: Eyes will move down
and to either side.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posture: Don't bend your back or
have your shoulders hanging down like, for the lack of a better word, a whipped
dog. Sit straight, but not too straight. You can also lead back in your chair,
if you are sitting. Don't spread your legs open wide.
Don't fold your arms. That can be somewhat off-putting.
Try not to place an elbow on a table and rest your cheek on that fist. That is
often a sign of boredom.
Some things to do with your arms that show that you are a bit more relaxed. (If
you can, try to act as if you are relaxed, even if you are not.):
Having your fingers interlocked behind your hands and elbows pointing out to
the side. It gives full view of your body, it can make it seem as if you are an
open person.
One arm resting in your lab or on the arm rest of a chair and the other on the
table.
Both arms on the table, but that will only really work if you are not sitting
fully erect, because then you'll seem nervous.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smile: How often you should smile
depends entirely on how you smile. A smile may seem arrogant, or farce, and if
that is the case, it is best not to smile too often because people may consider
it offensive. Regardless, smiles are important. A person that smiles is just so
much more appealing.
Speaking: You'll have the greatest
advantage in conversation if you know what the other person is interested in.
Then, mix the conversation up about your own topics and their interests.
You can learn about anothers persons interest by seeing what they read,
listening to what they speak to about others, and in plenty of other ways.
Initiating Conversation: The way
you greet people is also important. Keep the things I mentioned above in mind.
Posture, eye contact, and all that.
Now then, about initiating a conversation. There are a lot of greetings you can
use, but different greetings cause different reactions.
Hey: Commonly, the person will reply with
a variation of hey or hello or something along the lines, and either expect you
to continue the conversation or continue it themselves. If they reply with
"What's up" or a variation thereof, then just reply with what's up
with you, but keep it interesting. Something that someone would like to hear,
and not personal problems or anything in the like unless you know the person
well.
What's up: You can also start a
conversation with "What's up" and if they say something about what is
currently happening to them, or how their day is going, go off that.
Sometimes a person may not want to talk to you. That can be seen in
various signs, such as the tone in which they reply, firm (if they are, by
nature, not firm in how they speak), a curled lip, a sigh with their reply
which can mean two things, that they either do not want to talk to you, or that
you are bothering them, and other signs that are too many to list.
When trying to appear professional for some sorts
of scam, of course your introduction will have to be different. That would be
quite lengthy to go through, so I will not mention any of that here.
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Body Language: Certain things are
unappealing when you talk to others. Tapping your foot, fingers, or hands.
Constantly looking around. There is using your hands to speak along with your
verbal communication, but I don't think I can describe how to go through with
that because it probably would not make any sense.
Other: Social interaction also has
to do with observing the other person, and adjusting yourself with them. If a
person continues talking about a new topic, don't try to go back to the old
topic unless it is necessary or you cannot discuss the current topic. A topic
can be anything, from how you are feeling, to what is happening around you in
schoool, what you saw in TV, in the city. Anything, really.
M1- What is Manipulation?/What
you may need.
M2- Gender/Race/Looks (manipulating and manipulated)
M3- Acting the Role
M4- Rewards/Reason to Pursue
M5- Penalties/Risks
M6- Important Things to Keep in Mind.
M7- Protecting Yourself, "Counter-Manipulation"
M8- Personal "Strategies"
More will be added if needed.
M1- What is Manipulation?/What you may need
[muh-nip-yuh-ley-shuhn] ma⋅nip⋅u⋅la⋅tion
–noun
1. the act of manipulating.
2. the state or fact of being manipulated.
3. skillful or artful management.
Although that definition is VERY bland, it states the basics. Skillful or
artful management. To sum that up *IMO* that means controlling things in a way
thats disguised, careful, and well thought out to the extent of it being the norm.
Manipulation [on humans] is the controlling of some extent of their free will
for your own, benefit or prerogative. Although this may be done for other
individuals, its still YOUR prerogative. Your the one manipulating, your in
control. When you manipulate someone, you, unknowingly to them, take a
undetermined piece of their free will, and gradually bend it to what pleases
you. This can range from complimenting you for your self esteem, to money, to
seats of power. Many government officials use basic forms of manipulation to
gain power.
Manipulation in Our World {sub-category}
As said before, the best example of modern day manipulation is shown by the
government. During elections and other paths-to-power politicians will
basically tell you what you want to hear, as to gain your vote or approval.
This sounds awfully basic, childish almost, but they used advanced practices in
a basic way to please your ears, your emotions, and your minds.
Not only words can be used for manipulation, 'popular' individuals, like actors
and other 'beautiful' people often use how they look to get what they want,
simple enough right? Well not only the beautiful get it. All forms of looks,
gender, race, hair style, eyes, everything can be used to some advantage. So
just because you aren't the sexiest apple in the tree doesn't mean you don't
get something too!
"Skills"/"talents"/ Other things you may need.
Manipulation is often a give-and-take type thing. You have to give a little to
get a lot in return. Giving can range from treating someone to desert, to lying
straight out to their face.
Skills/Talents
These are just things that can help you out when your trying to manipulate,
they are not a requirement.
+Acting skills, Acting can help you gain their trust, without giving off any
information about yourself. This will be further mentioned in M3.
+Generosity, now some of you may read this and think "Wait what? Aren't we
trying to ABUSE them? Why would we be generous?!" Well it's simple, If you
were to say, buy them some little silly trinket that they took a liking to,
they will think 'oh, he/she is so nice!' That increases their trust in you by
however much.
+Lying, Some people may not approve of this one, but if you're good at lying,
then you have a higher chance for them to trust you. All you need to do is make
sure you don't screw your story up.
Other Things You May Need
+To be caring to an extent. They must THINK you are caring.
+Caution, you must remember, you never fully know who you are manipulating from
the start. You may be someone else's target.
+Smarts, You have to think out what they have to say, judge their reactions,
and know where to move from there.
+Risk taking, Like said above, you need to judge their reactions, and take some
risks to continue.
M2- Gender/Race/Looks
Everything affects manipulation in person, and occasionally online. Gender is a
constant in manipulation, certain things tick guys, certain things tick girls.
Guys generally like sports, while girls generally like shopping (GENERALLY).
You bring either of those up, with detail, and you have an instant connection.
Forming the bridge to hold that power. Now then!
Male Vs Female
Effects:
Both genders have special "effects". Girls give off the general
loving sense, to care, to be there for you, while men give off the protective
stance, the "nothing will hurt you". Knowing this is a serious thing
when manipulating someone from the opposite sex. Without them, this would be a
LOT more difficult.
Males "abilities":
+The "Protection", Males throughout history have been known as
protectors, you can use this towards your advantage.
+The "Charmer", Sweet, loving guys are often "rare", so
being able to use this can almost ensure some amount of power.
+Attractiveness, as always.
Females "abilities":
+Emotional support
+"Bad-Ass", every straight-male always hopes to find a girl with the
same general interests, whether its sports, music, tv, whatever. If a female
can pull that off, a guy will usually bide her every word.
+Attractiveness. THIS is the most useful by the "hot",
"sexy", "beautiful", etc females. If your attractive, then
you have an advantage. A cheap shot. But an advantage.
Defects:
Both genders have weaknesses as well. These can end up letting breaks in your
mental wall. These are just the easy one's. I don't expect anyone to use the
more difficult one's yet.
Male Weaknesses:
+Attractive females are one of the bigger weaknesses. Stupid I know, but this
can be easily prevented by being cautious.
+"Ego-Boosts", someone who boosts your ego makes you feel useful,
usually you will stick with them.
Female Weaknesses:
+Attractive males. Easy enough to understand.
+"Ego-Boosts", same as before.
+Sweet-hearts. A guy who can make a girl feel good, she will always want to be
around him. Regardless.
Race
Your race can often affect who you manipulate. This usually sticks to someone
of your own race (EG, asian with asian, white with white, black with black). I
am not being racist with this, but people naturally connect with people that
are more like them. It's human nature. So if your target is of the same race,
use that to an advantage. You already have one thing guarenteed in common, use
that. Its the first step to control.
Looks
Attractiveness mostly plays a factor in real-life scenarios. Only on occasion
is it used in online manipulation. This is rather simple. Individuals tend to
look towards attractiveness in the opposite sex.
Walk through a public area and watch a group of guys/girls. Study them for
10-15 minutes, eventually an attractive guy/girl will walk by, and you can see
a direct reaction if they are straight. Even if they aren't. Everyone
recognizes beauty. (The blind are an exception*).
If you are overly attractive, or even just cute (male/female), use this, do
what you can to distract them from what you SAY, to what you DO. If they are
studying your features, usually they tend to just nod and agree. This can push
them into a position where they either have to give you what you want, or
regrettably leave.
M3- Acting the Role
Manipulation, in some cases, requires you to act a role. To put on a mask and
pretend to be someone else. This is for people with trust issues, or just the
people that aren't "super" interesting.
For this you need to be able to act, and lie. You will need a decent memory to
make sure you don't mess up your story. If you do, you can nearly ensure a
barrage of questions.
Being able to predict their actions is extremely useful when acting. You have
to know how they will respond to what you do. When you're just starting, you
cant expect this.
People are naturally cautious. So just remember that they will not just
"fall for you" (certain cases are exempt.). If someone seems extra
cautious, they usually have something to hide. So give them something to take
as compensation. (*explained more in M8)
M4: Rewards/Reason to Pursue
This is fairly general, and personal to each person. I will just list off some
reasons that are most "popular".
+Money- Manipulating for money happens VERY often. It's one of the
most-occurring reasons.
+Secrets- This is mostly for curiosity. Although in big businesses or the
government, this can end up with a big fall or big finish. So more extensive in
the upper status'
+Sex- Mostly male's do this. Usually will occur at a bar/club/etc. Fairly
obvious reasons.
+Power- Government. Explained in M1
Other Reasons
+Revenge. This can be used on ex girlfriends/ex boyfriends. Very immature. But
it's still a reason.
+Spite. Just general disgust or hate towards someone.
+Boredom. Yup. It happens.
+Practice. This is on occasion. I don't advise it.
+If you have others, feel free to post them.
M5: Penalties and Risks
There are risks and penalties to manipulating. This is a short area, since
there are SO many, its not worth explaining every little one. These are the
one's i find most occurring.
1. Emotional Attachment- This happens between male-females. Usually you end up
too close. Just keep in mind your goals and you can prevent it.
2. Losing Yourself- This is usually from acting. If you keep the role too long,
you can lose yourself in the act. Once again, keep your goals in mind. And try
to keep this role to JUST one person. The same role on multiple people can end
up with you taking on the role permanently.
3. Revenge- People who find out they got played, may come back for revenge. If
this happens, just play off that it NEVER happened. Deny it all.
4. Serious Trouble- This isn't that often, but if you fuck someone up too bad,
and they head to the authorities, you can get in trouble for harassment. Or
various other crimes. Just try to keep back. Deny it all. Etc.
M6- Things to Keep in Mind/Tips
This is just a tip section. It will be filled in as people ask questions.
*1- If your trying to gain someone's trust, lie to them. Make your lie fluid
and keep your story straight. (*Explained more in M8)
*2- Keep notes of your work. If its an ongoing or long-term manipulation, you
will want to remember important things you tell them.
*3- If they start to catch on, you have three choices.
a. Deny it all, and continue your quest.
b. Admit it and pretend to feel bad about it. Make an entirely new story out of
it.
c. Leave. Vanish. Quit. This is by far the safest tactic.
*4- If irl (In Real Life), and during a "role" (your acting), a
friend/someone who knows you approaches you, return the approach, telling your
target you'll be right back. Do NOT let the person get close enough to spill
any unwanted information.
**4- If they do manage to spill information, claim its some guy from your high
school, it was your nickname blah blah blah. Just lie some more.
M7- Protecting Yourself, "Counter-Manipulation"
This section will explain how to protect yourself FROM BEING MANIPULATED.
This is the "Counter-Manipulation" Section. Please enjoy this, since
its me basically giving the Anti-Guide.
Basics
The basics of counter-manipulation, are knowing the basics OF manipulation. If
you know HOW to manipulate, you'll often know when people try to manipulate
you. Learn to manipulate the basics, and you'll catch on fast enough. The
following are some basics of what to watch out for if you suspect it.
*1- Being overly Complimented- If someone is complimenting you A LOT, they
are trying a basic form of manipulation. Give-And-Get situation. Keep it in
mind, if it truly bothers you, tell them you are uncomfortable with
compliments.
*2- Mixed Signals- Although this is VERY difficult to notice towards
manipulation, NewManipulators will have mixed reactions during their
manipulating. They will act one way, then another. This is more in males then
females, since females also have the hormonal reasons.
*3- New Feelings- This is stating to someone who originally disliked you,
suddenly changing feelings, becoming nice. Etc. (Normally they would gradually
switch.) This is almost a sure-fire way to spot a crappy manipulator. Or
someone that wants something.
*4- Mixed Stories- As stated above, one tactic is lying. If their story begins
to fall apart, it could be one of two things:
a) They are manipulating, and messing up.
b) Genuinely interested in being closer friends, so they are trying to impress
you.
*5- Paranoia- As a manipulator, I am EXTREMELY paranoid. Constantly. I'm not
100% if this is an exact signal, but I've noticed others. Paranoia can be
summed up as questioning you on who you are, digging for random info. This is
making sure you are who you say you are.
*6- Secret-Sharing- If someone tries to get secrets, or offers you one
in-exchange, be wary, its a classic technique of false-bait. Just be careful.
*7- Won't allow you to add IRL contacts- This can apply to facebook/myspace/email/phone
etc. They give you one that seems "fake" or "small."
*8- Anger- When they ask for something from you, and you say no, or you
literally cant, they spaz out, or get upset. This can either be Severe
Emotional Distortion or they are not getting what they want. ***Watch out for a
Guilt Trip***
M8- Personal Strategies
This topic is rather hard to discuss, I'd much rather explain after a direct
question is asked about a certain situation. I will state some things I do to
"catch" my "prey" easier.
*1- False Baiting~ This is a tactic where you offer your own secrets, to
gain their trust, or get some of their own secrets. Rather good tactic and
works often. I usually lie, or tell smaller secrets, but pretend that they are
really deep and impacting on yourself.
*2- False Emotion~ This refers to what I just said, Throwing your emotions at
topics will make them feel bad, or sorry, for you, which is always useful. If
someone feels bad, they are more likely to do something for you. Or trust you
even!
*3- Guilt Trip~ Oh joy, this is an easy one. Use this as a backdoor. If they
don't tell you something in return, whine and act sad that you trusted them and
they don't trust you.
In Real Life
In real life, be more cautious, because people can find you easier. Just watch
out. While manipulating, think it out more. There's no "oh sorry, my
friend was on the computer" redo's. You have to live by what you say. So
be MORE careful then ever.
Online
Online, you have more push-and-pull space. You can mess up more. So if you're
practicing, do it online. Although, Person to Person cant be sub'd for this,
its still nice practice on wording and training yourself. Keep in mind that
your targets here are weaker. People on the internet (targets usually off of Online
Games/Chat rooms) are lonelier, weaker, and want someone around. If you really
jack-them-up, it can result in them causing themselves pain. It's your risk.
Types of stubbornness
First off, I am writing this in order to explain you that people are pretty
much different. You cannot say for someone that they are stupid, stubborn, bad,
fast or anything else without specified reason.
So I am using the same thing for stubbornness.
You have different types, different stances, different opinions. It doesn’t
have to mean that someone is stubborn just because they are not supporting your
opinion. I will explain some of that now.
Stubbornness is the quality or state of being stubbornly inflexible:
die-hardism, grimness, implacability, incompliance, inexorability,
inexorableness, inflexibility, inflexibleness, intransigence, obduracy,
obdurateness, relentlessness, remorselessness, rigidity.
Believe it or not, you have more types of stubbornness, and it can also be
caused by multiple events or triggering points.If we talk about triggering
points, that will be very huge subject, so I will skip it for now.
Let us talk about types:
1) LIFETIME QUESTIONS – this depends
on anything that you have decided to accept as your lifetime belief,
profession, habit…
Examples:
- You are Christian and you believe that "God" exists.
- You are a sportsmen and you think that you cannot live without sport.
- You love computing and if someone tells you to stay off your computer, you
will not even pay attention to them.
Now back to the subject, this is very hard to change or influent. Why? If
someone has any opinion for so long time, so many ages without changing it,
even providing the best evidence will not reprogram their brain, because their
brain recognizes these info as right one.
If you try to influence those questions, I am 95% sure that you will fail,
unless you have a huge amount of respect that you have earned in your
opponent's eyes or your opponent doesn’t have completely formed opinions and
stances.
2) OPINION MISUNDERSTANDING – Good
example for this is when you have two people arguing about the same thing, and
one of them is obviously right, and the other one will not accept that, or will
not confess that they are defeated or anything similar; unless proof is
provided
Example:
Two men are arguing if Stallin was the Soviet Union leader. First man is
supporting the first belief, and the other one is saying that he was leader of Lithuania. We
all know that the first one is right, but the other one is looking for
evidence. If proof is provided, he would have changed his opinion. First one
goes to the internet page and finds multiple evidences.
This type of stubbornness is the least dangerous, but it can make you look
stupid. sometimes
3) EMOTIONAL STUBBORNNESS – this is also
known as emotionally provoked stubbornness
Example: Someone is telling you that
relationships are not always great option. They are not lying to you (they have
proof), but they hurt your feelings in the past when they lied to you about
less important things.
So you are intentionally telling them that relationships are great and you
won’t change your opinion, because your brain recognizes this as one more lie,
and you don’t respect that person because of their previous scams. You also can
think that this person hates you or wishes you pain and suffering, and this can
also be a reason for your decision.
4) PREVIOUS FIRING POINT – this is the
type which consists of one previous bad experience, which returns to you always
in the same or similar situation in the future. This can also be known as
traumatized stubbornness.
Example: A friend screwed you over, and some time has passed. You are very
sensitive from the inside. You are in the similar situation with your other
friend after some time, and he is providing you evidences that you should
listen to him and has strong arguments, but you stay on your opinion in order
to protect yourself from trolling.
5) DEADLY TYPE – this is very, very
dangerous because this kind of person will not change their opinion even if you
have a whole nation on your back supporting your opinion. I really don’t know
the reason why these people are doing what they do, but my advice is to stay
away from these types of people.
Example: The wall is green. Other person is
telling you that the wall is yellow, nevertheless he sees that the wall is
green.
6) PHYSIOLOGICAL TYPE – you are
telling someone to leave something or not to do something, but he has
physiological needs for this activity or process
Example: You are a smoker. You know that someone
has right when he tells you that smoking ruins your health. However, your brain
and organism cannot handle a day without cigarettes. And you are saying that
cigarettes are not going to kill you, and that he should chill up a little bit.
You did this because your hormones started to work at that time, and you have
habit to smoke. After some time, your brain will reprogram this information
that way.
This is still under further investigation, because some scientists are saying
that this is form of a defensive mechanism.
7) STEP IN FRONT – if you can read
somebody like a book, you will be able to predict their next movement. If
someone tells you that they will not do that, you will not accept their
opinion, you will not even bother listening to it.
Example: You know that somebody is trying to
screw you. He is persuading you that you should trust him and specifies
reasons, but you strictly deny because you know that he is a scammer or a bad
person.
8) PARANOID STUBBORNNESS- someone is
simply paranoid because they were tricked too many times
Example: A new person adds you as a friend on
facebook and asks you multiple times through messages to accept her. You were
tricked so many times or you are a hacker, so you are afraid that this could be
dangerous for you, that this could be a risk and so on.
You are not accepting, even if you know that this person really exists in real
life.
Ten rules of effective persuasion
Important sentences: - Persuasion is the skill of using words to
change the way others think, feel and behave.
- Persuasion produces internal change in the other person that he or she can
use in the other situations.
- Persuasion can be applied in any human interaction that involves
communication.
- In order to successfully persuade, you will need persuasion and wisdom.
- Persuasion rules focus on a big picture - planning, opportunity, goals – but
not on specific persuasion plays.
Rule 1: There are no laws, only rules
Persuasion is always hard. You can't simply mark and win the lottery ticket,
you are not the only one doing it. It is difficult, changeable and
unpredictable; there are no habits.
There is no routine here. You should not always follow the same scheme.
You must not focus on the same spot or sentence.
Simply, you must look for unusual variations, angles and surprising turns.
Example:
You are trying to persuade someone, and you know that he is vulnerable to
higher knowledge level.
You know more than him. But, in the meantime, he changes his personality and he
doesn't give a fuck about anything.
Maybe he survives some trauma and everything becomes equal to him. Will you use
the same strategy and same law?
Of course not, you will try to adjust yourself to the new situation.
Rule 2: It's always about the other guy.
Who are you actually trying to persuade?
Is he listening to you?
Do you have strong evidence?
Are you having any kind of influence on that person?
Are you smarter than that person?
And so many other questions…
Example:
Fail:
1)You are trying to persuade a Christian person that God does not
exist.(religious or life beliefs)
2) You are trying to tell NASA Scientist that Earth is not turning around the
sun (Your knowledge level is a lot lower).
3)You are trying to persuade person which is dead from the inside that someone
loves him/her.
(Person is left by everyone, and you are telling the opposite thing without
strong evidence, in their own system of values)
Good:
1)You know a lot more in some area than other person.
2)You are expert in some areas other person knows nothing or very little about.
3) You are providing very strong evidence.
4) Person you are trying to persuade trusts you.
5) Other person is gullible.
Rule 3:People tend to resist change.
Every time you try to change somebody, they will ask themselves:
”Is this change worth it? Will I feel better if I…?”
Be patient, changes do not occur frequently. Change needs time.
Example:
You are trying to persuade someone that they should eat less, because they are
fat.
If you tell them without any evidence, this may potentially turn into a
failure.
But if this person is a male, you can tell him that the girls will love him
more if he loses a few pounds.
Or tell him that he will look better, he will be able to move more…
Remember, we are humans. We all have weak spots, you just need to locate them…
Rule 4: All persuasion is local.
Local means that everything is going on in your persuasive situation.
You need to be aware of local elements and factors.
Important factors are:
- You and your goals at the moment.
- The other person and their goals at the moment.
- The nature of relationship between you and the other person.
- Other stuff that is going on in that situation.
What are you and the other person?
Variables could be mood, mental state, skill or motivation.
What are your goals and other person's goals?
Goals are the things you are trying to accomplish, right now with the person,
but also in the long term.
What is your relationship?
Friends or lovers, colleagues, competitors, supervisor, subordinate, teacher –
student, strangers…
And it may also be important how long have you known each other.
What is the situation? Everything going on in life around you and around the
other person. Religious, political, educational, friendly, work, play, time,
date, day of the week...
When you combine all of this and your situation,you will realize that
persuasion is very,very hard.
Example: You are trying to persuade your
colleague that your view on some topic is better. They do not agree with you,
and they disrespect you, and have better grades.
Also, you are in a trolley car and noise is loud… It is obvious that your
chances are not big.
Rule 5: If you cannot succeed, don't try to.
This is just like earning someone's trust.
If you fail they will not trust you anymore, or they will trust you less and
respect you less.
If you are wrong, you do not have status quo anymore, you are not the
authority, you are just a jerk in their eyes.
Example: You are trying to persuade
professional K1 fighter that he should attack head of the opponent, whose hands
are standing in a very high guard. There is a big chance this will fail,
because every normal fighter will attack the legs or stomach first, and after
the guard is lowered, the head is free for an attack and possible KO.
Rule 6: Effective persuasion takes planning
Everything takes time. You need to be patient. Every persuasion is slightly
different and requires a unique plan.
Example: I have a friend (she) that would do
almost anything for me. She is very popular, but she doesn't like to be friend
with everybody.
I don't give a crap about her at all!
I am just pretending that I am her friend because she is so popular and she
will give me a lot more that you can imagine. I needed four months to become
her good friend.
Thank you HackRules for learning me these wonderful things, it is the truth
that our relationship is based on a lie ,but she is blinded and trusts me
everything I say about my “emotions” for her.
Rule 7: All bad persuasion is sincere.
Sincere communicators are lousy persuaders. They call everything exactly how
they see it. They will say what moves them, but not what moves the other
person.
For a good persuader, it is very important to be calm, creative and full of
wonderful examples, natural feelings and desires.
Example: You are telling someone that you know
more than them, and you are just yelling that you know more and avoid any+ kind
of conversation.
This is not good, because other people will think that you are avoiding this
for some reason. And what is that reason?
Even if you really know more than them, explain them in front of other people
(or when you two are alone, depends on the other perosn), calmly and easily why
ls he making a mistake, and provide example.
Rule 8:Persuasion Kiss
You should always find new resources, ideas and thoughts.
You must always look one step ahead.
The Deeper the situational awareness and skill, the bigger chances you have.
Example: Your friend (she) is helping you to
persuade someone in something. She knows a lot more, but she won’t talk unless
she is rewarded.
Hug her, kiss her, tell her gentle words, flirt, gossip… Whatever she likes,
and “Keep it up” is always important, raise her motivation.
If you know her weak spots, ”help” her bypass them or heal them.
She will come to you very quickly.
Rule 9:Walk softly and carry a big stick.
Power can make problems in persuasion.
If you feel yourself too powerful, you will open yourself in one moment and
make a fatal error. To avoid that, be calm, stand on the ground, even be
paranoid. This will help you a lot.
If you base everything on your power, you will have bigger chances to lose the
argument and become a poor persuader.
Example:
You are aggressively telling someone that they made an error, for example football
center forward that he is always late on center shot.
If you yell at them, they won’t know what their mistake is.
But if you gently tell them that they had a bad start, and that they should try
to start the moment the ball is centered by his co-player, maybe you will have
more success.
Sit and talk to him instead of yelling, explain to him why he made that error,
try to correct it in the training, repeat this process a few times and he will
surely make less errors.
Maybe he won’t be late at all next time, but this will have more effect than
yelling.
Rule 10: Power corrupts persuasion
You must practice persuasion. It is a skill.
It is not just a stupid thing, it needs time, you will need training,
experience and tactics. It will diminish if you don’t train often.
Use public chatrooms to train online, or use your school or teammates to train
every day.
Example: You have two guys. One of them
trained heavily on chat, and the other one just thinks that he is the law, and
that he is the most beautiful guy in the world, with a lack of knowledge and
wonderful look.
Though he has advantage in the start, he will probably lose – lack of skill,
informations, evidence, knowledge. He will only win if the other person is his
good friend, or some person that is crazily in love with him.
Otherwise, he will just fail.
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• The person will make little or no eye contact. A person who is lying to you
will do
everything to avoid making eye contact.
• Physical expression will be limited, with few arm and hand movements. What
arm and hand
movements are present will seem stiff, and mechanical. Hands, arm and legs pull
in toward
the body; the individual takes up less space.
• His hand(s) may go up to his face or throat, especially to the mouth. But
contact with his
body is limited to these areas. He is also unlikely to touch his chest with an
open hand
gesture. He may also touch the nose or scratch behind the ear.
• If he is trying to appear casual and relaxed about his answer, he may shrug a
little.
Section 2: Emotional States: Consistency and
Contradiction
• The timing is off between gestures and words. If the facial expression comes
after the verbal
statement (“I am so angry with you right now” … pause … and then the angry
expression), it
looks false.
• The head moves in a mechanical fashion without regard to emphasis, indicating
a conscious
movement.
• Gestures don’t match the verbal message, such as frowning when saying “I love
you.” Hands
tightly clenched and a statement of pleasure are not in sync with each other.
• The timing and duration of emotional gestures will seem off. The emotion is
delayed coming
on, stays longer than it should, and fades out abruptly.
• Expression will be limited to the mouth area when the person is feigning
certain emotions –
happiness, surprise, awe, and so on – rather than the whole face
Section 3: Interpersonal Interactions – When we are
wrongfully accused, only a guilty person gets
defensive. Someone who is innocent will usually go on the offensive.
• He is reluctant to face his accuser and may turn his head or shift his body
away.
• The person who is lying will probably slouch; he is unlikely to stand tall
with his arms out or
outstretched.
• There’s movement away from his accuser, possibly in the direction of the
exit.
• There will be little or no physical contact during his attempt to convince
you.
• He will not point his finger at the person he is trying to convince.
• He may place physical objects (pillow, drinking glass, et cetera) between
himself and his
accuser to form a barrier, with a verbal equivalent of “I don’t want to talk
about it,” indicating
deception or covert intention.
Section 4: What Is Said: Actual Verbal Content
• He will use your words to make his point. When asked, “Did you cheat on me?”
The liar
answers, “No, I didn’t cheat on you.” In addition, when a suspect uses a
contraction – “It
wasn’t me” instead of “It was not me” – statistically, there is a 60% chance he
is truthful.
• He may stonewall, giving an impression that his mind is made up. This is
often an attempt to
limit your challenges to his position. If someone says right up front that he
positively won’t
budge, it means one thing: He knows he can be swayed. He needs to tell you this
so you
won’t ask, because he knows he’ll cave in. The confident person will use phrases
like “I’m
sorry, this is pretty much the best we can do.”
• Watch out for the good old Freudian slip.
• He depersonalizes his answer by offering his belief on the subject instead of
answering
directly. A liar offers abstract assurances as evidence of his innocence in a
specific instance.
Example: “Did you ever cheat on me?” and you hear, “You know I’m against that
sort of
thing. I think it morally reprehensible.”
• He will keep adding more information until he’s sure that he has sold you on
his story. The
guilty are uncomfortable with silence. He speaks to fill the gap left by the
silence.
• He may imply an answer but never state it directly.
Section 5: How Something Is Said
• Deceitful response to questions regarding beliefs and attitudes take longer to
think up.
However, how fast does the rest of the sentence follow the initial one-word
response? In
truthful statements a fast no or yes is followed quickly by an explanation. If
the person is
being deceitful the rest of the sentence may come more slowly because he needs
time to think
up an explanation.
• Watch out for reactions that are all out of proportion to the question. May
repeat points that
he has already made. May also be reluctant to use words that convey attachment
and
ownership or possessiveness (“that car” as opposed to “my car”).
• The person who is lying may leave out pronouns and speak in a monotonous and
inexpressive
voice. When a person is making a truthful statement, he emphasizes the pronoun
as much as
or more than the rest of the sentence.
• Words may be garbled and spoken softly, and syntax and grammar may be off. In
other
words, his sentences will likely be muddled rather than emphasized.
• Statements sound an awful lot like questions, indicating that he’s seeking
reassurance. Voice,
head and eyes lift at the end of their statement.
Section 6: Psychological Profile
• We often see the world as a reflection of ourselves. If you’re being accused
of something,
check your accuser’s veracity. Watch out for those people who are always telling
you just
how corrupt the rest of the world is. Beware of those asking you if you believe
him. They
may respond with, “you don’t believe me, do you?” Most people who tell the
truth expect to
be believed.
• Look at whether his focus is internal or external. When a person is confident
about what he’s
saying, he’s more interested in your understanding him and less interested in
how he appears
to you.
• In a liar’s story, he will usually not give the point of view of a third
party. To illustrate giving
a point of view of someone else, “My roommate was so shocked that I would…”
• In relating a story, a liar often leaves out the negative aspects (unless the
story is used to
explain way he was delayed or had to cancel plans). The story of a vacation,
for example,
should have both positive and negative aspects of what happened.
• A liar willingly answers your questions but asks none of his own. For
example, during their
first intimate encounter, Randy asks his new girlfriend if she’s ever been
tested for AIDS.
She responds with “Oh, yes, certainly,” and continues on a bit about annual
checkups, giving
blood, etc. And then nothing! If she was concerned about her health, as her
answer implied,
then [i]she would have asked him the same question. The liar is often unaware
that coming
across as truthful means both answering and asking questions.
Section 7: General Indications of Deceit
• When the subject is changed, he’s in a better, more relaxed mood. The guilty
wants the
subject changed; the innocent always wants a further exchange of information.
• He does not become indignant when falsely accused. While he is being accused
the liar will
remain fairly expressionless. The liar is more concerned with how he is going
to respond than
he is with the accusation itself.
• He uses such phrases as “To tell you the truth,” “To be perfectly honest,”
and “Why would I
lie to you?”
• He has an answer to your question down pat, such as giving precise detail to
an event
occurring two months ago.
• He stalls by asking you to repeat the question or by answering your question
with a question.
“Where did you hear that?” “Could you be more specific?” or even repeating your
question
back to you, at an attempt at sounding incredulous. For example, “Did I sell
you a puppy with
a heart condition? Is that what you’re asking me?”
• What he’s saying sounds implausible, such as “During the past ten years, I
have never used a
specific racial epithet.”
• He offers a preamble to his statement starting with “I don’t want you to
think that…” Often
that’s exactly what he wants you to think. Whenever someone makes a point of
telling you
what they’re not doing, you can be sure it’s exactly what they are doing. Such
as, “Not to
hurt your feelings, but…”
• He implies through a form of denial. You hear, “He’s having marital problems,
but it has
nothing to do with his wife’s new job.” What’s the first thing you ask? “What
does his wife
do?” Suddenly you’re in the exact conversation that is “supposed” to have no
bearing on the
facts.
• He uses humor or sarcasm to defuse your concerns, rather than responding
seriously.
• He offers you a “better” alternative to your request when he is unable to
give you what you
originally asked for. Before you accept someone at his word that he has
something better to
offer, first see whether he has what you originally asked for. If he doesn’t,
then you shouldn’t
believe him.
• All of his facts relating to numbers are the same or multiples of one
another. Watch out when
facts, figures, and information have unusual similarities.
• There is evidence of involuntary responses that are anxiety based. Anxiety
causes many
things. His breather may appear as a deep, audible inhaling in an attempt to
control his
breathing to calm himself. Swallowing becomes difficult; he may clear his
throat. His ability
to focus on something is often diminished, unable to pay attention to what’s
going on.
• He uses an obvious fact to support a dubious action. For example, let’s say
that a guard is
standing watch over a restricted area. It’s his job to check ID’s of those who
enter. “I’m not
sure you have authorization,” he says to a man attempting access. “I’m not
surprised,”
answered the man, “only a few people are aware of my clearance level. My work
here is not
supposed to be known by everyone.”
• He casually tells you something that deserves more attention.
• He exclaims his displeasure at the actions of another who has done something
similar so that
you will not suspect him. For instance, if he is trying to throw you off track
of his
embezzlement scheme, he may openly chastise another employee for “borrowing”
some
office supplies for personal use at home. Your impression is that he is moral
person who
objects to something as minor as stealing office supplies. Certainly he cannot
be responsible
for a large-scale embezzlement scheme.
• He may casually tell you something that should deserve more attention. “Oh by
the way, I’ve
got to go out of town next weekend on business.” If he doesn’t usually travel
for work on the
weekends, then you would expect her to make a point of how unusual the trip is.
Her
downplaying the trip makes it suspicious. When something out of the ordinary
happens and
the person doesn’t draw attention to it, it means that he is trying to draw
attention away from
it. Another tactic is running off a long list of items in the hope that one
will remain unnoticed.
• If he lies about one thing, everything he says is questionable.
• His story is so wild that you almost don’t believe it. But you do, because if
he wanted to lie,
you think that he would have come up with something more plausible.
Lying
I bet you have already written my
tutorial How to be very successful liar, but that tut is for advanced liars.
What if you are noob? This can help you to start, but remember, you need to
adjust this to your possibilities. Good luck!
Anyone in his/her lifetime had a need to lie(don't argue with that), but
how to do it to make them believe you.
Here come few advices in a package.
First, the most important thing is conviction , it means talk steady,
don't twitch your speech. Sentences must be short and laconic, not literally
"yes", "no", "maybe" instead of them use
"Yes your right" or something like that to prove to listener that you
not afraid to answer and don't want quickly change the theme of current speech,
which ,of course, will any normal person make suspicious about you and what
you're thinking.
Second,choosing the sentences.
As I said they must be straight, but not too straight. Always make sentences
for the current topic of conversation. Better, make other person to change it.
Give them a little pressure to show you're controlling the conversation.
Third,behaviour while lying.
Never look down! It means you ashamed of yourself and not quite convicted about
yourself, you're afraiding of what the person will say after your statement.
Don't be nervous, don't make legs crossed(it just gives sign of impatience to
get rid of current conversation). Look at the same level as the persons eyes
(look at what is behind him/her). Hands must be calm,relaxed,best would be too
keep them crossed, steady(it adds that majority feeeling).
Fourth,reverse the reverse psychology.(optional,just for juice!)
Dont lie, strike, say directly, what you did or mean.The person will be
confused and amazed(in most cases), after that-lie , he will believe in it.
But don't do this, if you think the other person was waiting for that
"wrong" action, statement, whatever. It'll make him suspicious.
Ending conversation.
Simple, make him/her ending it.
Notes:
Don't sweat(sweating is sign that you're using more energy to speak, and for
what you're using so much energy, correct!For lying!!)
Tip:before conversation squeeze(not to hard) blood-vessel which is between your
neck and shoulder,in front of your neck muscle.This will stop the blood from
filling your face red.
Let's say that you don't have any experince at lying. For
start, these basic tips will help you:
1. Always look the person your lying to in the
eye.
2. Don't fidget and look away.
3. Make sure you know what your going to say or you'll stutter.
4. Remember your story and don't change it.
5. Stay consistent with what you said. If you change it they'll know your
lying.
6. Don't smile.
7. Use past emotions to make your poker face perfect. (Like remembering a dead
loved one for sadness)
8. Do not expect to become a pro liar over night. Be patient, train your
skills, progress easily. Remember, patience is the key!
TIPS
1) Try to talk firmly without losing any word cause this shows your
uncertainty. Doing this will make the listener believe you are trustworthy.
2) Use big words and sentences. It's recommended that you don't answer
questions with one or two words. Back up your opinion as well as you can.
3) Don't look desperate. It shows that you have lost faith on what you're
trying to do which intrigues the listener whether you believe in it or not.
4) Try to stare him/her in the eyes. Thus, you will intimidate him and he will
hold an affirmative stand against you, even though he's doing it subconciously.
5) Tell a joke. If you seem more light about the subject your slave will be
even lighter and believe everything you want to pass on.
6) Be more demanding. You will let the listener know that you are determined to
convince him so there is no way out.
7) Do not touch the listener. You will scare him away by doing that and he will
keep a very defensive way.
8) I would say follow the rules above but it would be shitty. Try to speak loud
and clear. Do not make the listener ask you "What?" cause
automatically you lose lots of points.
Prologue
Before I begin my thread regarding sympathy, I would like to wish you all good
luck in all your efforts made to manipulate the human mind. This is my first
serious thread on this forum and I hope that you will all enjoy it.
Chapter One: Sympathy in a nutshell
The word sympathy in the Oxford Online Dictionary defines:
1. feelings of pity and sorrow for someone else's misfortune
2. understanding between people; common feeling.
As self-explaining as they are, in short the word sympathy means to feel sorry
for someone during their unfortunate times/events etc. Sympathy is a reflex
towards listening to misfortunate stories. Everybody has sympathy, it's human.
Being sympathetical towards another's unhappiness and suffering shows the slave
that you are understanding towards their grief. A positive feeling showing that
you are understanding, sympathy also has a side to it which can be used for
normal human manipulation. As humans are not telepathic and the general
population not possessing the ability to read emotions, sympathy can come into
play as a nasty tool to manipulate. Allowing people to feel sympathy towards
you and/or feeling sympathetical towards people can both lead to successful
human manipulation. These will be explained throughout the thread. Also
throughout the thread, majority of the acts will be done by exaggeration and
bending the truth.
Chapter Two: Get your story straight!
As said in the previous chapter, sympathy is a nasty tool to allow people to
feel sympathy towards you. If successful, it can allow you to control the slave
(according to the story you made up during the act). If unsuccessful, the story
created will remain - in the eyes of the slave - a true story. There is no need
to exercise or learn something to lie and/or to make people feel sympathy. The
only thing to do is to set your story straight, so when asked random questions
regarding the story, you will show no hesitance in answering them, therefore
making the story seem real. A story, in this case, is something that shows that
you have had a misfortunate event go by, and you are suffering from it. Lets
begin with an example:
Our story: Peter is a teenager learning to manipulate the mind by using
sympathy. He has already thought of the story he wishes to tell his girlfriend,
Angelina. His story is simple: he lost his wallet at the shopping mall last
week and it had his monthly savings in it which he was going to buy a PlayStation
game with. He has used to this story because he knows his girlfriends' family
is rich and capable of spending money to virtually anything.
Peter has his story set straight, willing to answer every question that comes
at him. He has done his research, knowing that his girlfriends' parents are
economically stable to spend money to anything they want. This is the
successful first step in using sympathy as a human manipulation technique.
Chapter Three: Act as honest as you can!
As a normal human manipulator, the main purpose is to act as straight and
honest as you can. One wrong move can cost the whole plan to manipulate the
slave. Sympathy here also plays a major role. You, the person trying to
manipulate the slave, have your own story to play out. As like an actor; to
make your story believeable, you have to act out as if it really is true. So as
an example with Peter:
Our story: Peter meets up with his girlfriend at the local cafe. His face is
filled with grief and his heart with depression. He acts this way so his
girlfriend can ask him what's wrong and the sympathy technique can enter play.
So Angelina asks Peter what's wrong, Peter tells her the made up story of him
losing his wallet at the shopping mall and it contained the money required to
buy his favourite PlayStation game. His girlfriend knew Peter had a thing for
PlayStation, and she truly felt sorry for him.
Another success. As Peter showed his girlfriend his "genuine" feeling
of grief on his face showed his girlfriend that he was in pain. He acted it
quite well and accomplished his task of making her feel sympathy for him.
Chapter Four: Chances of success!
Gender plays a great role in using sympathy to manipulate the human mind. As
the female brain consists of more emotion, they have a better chance to
manipulate either the same sex, or the opposite. Some examples are:
* If attempting to manipulate a female using sympathy, there is a higher rate
of success, as the female mind consists of more sympathetic feelings.
* As a male is a more of a un-sympathetic and a less caring figure, the chances
of a male manipulating another male is slim, unless of course both males trust
one another.
* The chances of females manipulating males are very high, as the female has
the ability to bring up tactics that they can use to convince the males mind.
Chapter Five: The outcome!
A successful sympathetical human manipulation can result in many things,
depending on the story given and the goal you want to reach. Lets see what
Peter is going to do:
Our story: As Angelina felt the sympathy towards her boyfriend, she offered the
idea of her buying the game for him. Peter declined, but he had already planned
it out. The stubborness of Angelina got to the best of her, as Peter wanted it
to, and they both went out and Angelina bought the PlayStation game Peter had
wanted. Peter gave her a nice passionate kiss and resulted in a win-win
conclusion.
So Peter knew about her girlfriend being stubborn, he used it against her, so
used both sympathy and reverse psychology to succeed in his attempt to make his
girlfriend buy him a game. So the outcome always changes according to what you
choose it to be, but in the end, it was a well-played tactic of sympathy.
Epilogue
Sympathy: the ability to make others feel sorry for you. Using this in your
life of manipulation is great, as the natural feeling of sympathy is a nasty
tool. I hope you enjoyed reading my thread on understanding sympathy and using
it as a tool for human manipulation. In a few days, I will post up my new Understanding
Human Manipulation thread regarding the topic of empathy.
TRICKING
You were probably always wondering how hard tricking can
be.Well it is not easy,and success rate will depend on many facts.Let me
clarify you some key points of this.I am writing this from my own experience.I
hope this will help you.
1)Gathering info about the person
Are you trying to trick someone from the internet?
Is that someone you know in your private life? Then you should know some data
about him,you will need some social engineering,for example how he/she
behaves,habbits,daily schedule,interests,anything that can be useful…even
emotional chart…I am always using astrology as a support,but again this will be
your choice,maybe you have some better methods….
2)How do people look at you
Here you have four options:
POPULAR – if people think that you are
good and positive person in the surround,if they like you,help you,think that
you are cool guy and so on,you will have better chances for tricking
MAN IN THE MIDDLE – it will depend what
are you trying to do and who are you trying to trick,but you still have good
chances if you prepare the terrain well
UNPOPULAR – you will have to try very hard
cause people will say that they don’t give a f*ck about your opinion…Very patient
social engineering and masking into “ideal match” can help you,but you will
need a long time
WEIRD(FREAK) – if people are saying that
for you,you have the least chances.Instead of that,help them few times,be there
for them if nobody is…be very patient and they will see that you are not
freak…And after few months,trick the person like nobody ever would. Hehe
3) Defining your goals
What is your ultimate goal?If you are trying to trick college professor about
something from his subject,you are screwed in the start.But if you are trying
to trick some gullible child to lend you money that you won’t return,this is
80% scoring rate,if you understand me.
4)Defining weak spots
We are human,everybody has a weak spot or weak spots,we are all vulnerable to
something.If you find out your slave’s vulnerability,it will be easier to trick
him.
For example,if someone doesn’t like his secrets in public,you can tell him that
you will tell his secrets unless he…
Or if someone doesn’t like gays,you can threaten that you will give his number
to gaychat website…So many options…
5) Which type of personality are you trying to trick?
This part depends on your slave.Which is type of his/her personality?
GULLIBLE – this is the easiest,just say
something that looks persuasively and this person will enter the trap…the best
option here are fake promises – example :
We will go to the cinema tonight if you…
STUPID – Not particulary hard,but you will
to hit the spot your slave likes
I will give you something that my friend(she) did to “the hottest guy in the
college”:
He told her that she is a whore 4 months ago.We went skiing and he forgot what
he did,and she got close to him,even kissed him…and than she told him that she
wants to have sex with him.Of course,he ran like a moron…And when they entered
the room,she told me and few of our friends to wait in front of the room,cause
she is planning something very mean.
When he striped his shorts,she opened the door and told him:”Your dick is too
small for my needs.GTFO from this room.By the way,I think that you know who is
little whore now.”Of course we were outside and laughed like never in our
lives. Hehe He wasn’t thinking about beating her,cause she is a kung-fu master
and K1 fighter…
OUTGOING – this will be sometimes
hard,because,nevermind if these people are like books with open pages,they are
not always stupid or gullible…
Example : Can we go to drink some beer tonight? Yes,of course…
You won’t appear…of course there are many other options but these people are
not always easy target.
SHY – if you don’t have their trust or if
you see them for the first time,don’t expect too much…you will need some time
to earn their trust and then you can try
HELPFUL – if you cause pitty in their
eyes,tricking is easy
Example: I don’t have any money,please give me some....Help me please,my GF/BF
will leave me if I don’t…and I love him/her…
SKEPTIC – if you cannot provide strong
evidences that you are not lying and that you are not some troll or
scammer,better don’t try,this argument will last for ages
PARANOID – depends of paranoia type,but
generally these people will always feel fear of your actions,they will always
afraid that something will not be as you told them.If you don’t succeed from
first 5-10 attempts,better give up
ULTRAPARANOID – Unless this person trusts
you 100% or with her life,your chances are zero…Only a lot of patience and
master social engineering,but even this won’t help everytime
SOCIOPATHS – depends which type of
disorder he/she has,it might try to help you.Get to know the disorder better
and you will know your chances.Read this tutorial! It depends on
disappearances,but sociopaths are harder type of disorders
For example,if someone has personality disorder with two persons inside
one(Cliff and Jay),tell Cliff that Jay would like to do that…
LONERS – if they don’t like people in
general,they will try to keep the distance from you.Unless you know how to get
close to them,better don’t try.
If they need a friend or GF/BF desperately,pretend that you are a perfect
friend and you will surely succeed.
DEAD FROM THE INSIDE – Beware of those
people!They are having different view to everything,they don’t appreciate
life,values,existence…all they want is to be dead or to die,so they really
ain’t give a f*ck what will happen tomorrow…maybe they will help you,maybe they
won’t;but you can’t trust them for sure
6)Action
When you did all of the previous,it is time to try to trick someone.Better you
prepare terrain,better you know the person,you will have better chances!Good
luck!
HOW TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL
LIAR
I know this tutorial may be extremely boring to you,but believe me this might
save your asses,so I STRONGLY RECOMMEND to read this very,very carefully.
1)Discover your personality
- Are you extro or introverted person?Extroverted persons are extremely open to
the surround,having more friends,more fun,spending more time in company,having
a lot of friends…Introverted persons are sometimes loners,usually having few
friends,don’t trust people,don’t go out very often,closed as hell…this all
depends of scales,I found some research where it has extroverting scales 1-20
and introverted scales 1-20
It goes this way:
--
--
1(authistic) - ... -10(introvert with friends)- ...-20(border value-not i or
e)-...-30(extroverted with a lot of friends) -...- 40(maximum extroverted –
talk to everybody about everything)
Find yourself here.
-Can you lie successfully?Of course you can.Believe in yourself.Stand in front
of your mirror and tell 100 times per day:”I can do this”,”I can do that…”Close
your eyes,focus on future happening and say 100 times with maximum focus:”I can
do that!”
Where is your place on the scale?For example I am 5/40,so you judge on your
own.
-Do you believe in your possibilities?If not you are more dangerous for your
surround,people who are unaware of their possibilities might be very
destructive,let me give you an example – my best friend(she),a kung fu
master,was on skiing with me with our college.Her weight is 128lbs and she is
5’9” tall;and she argued with a guy who has 200lbs and 6’5” tall,he slapped her
and she fel on the floor.After that she had beaten him up so hard that he had
in the end two broken ribs,broken mandibula,a lot of bruises,almost broken nose
and a lot of blood over the face…And she was always saying:”I afraid,I can’t…”,believe
me those people are more dangerous than people who are aware of their
possibilities.
2)Stand in front of a mirror and train your speech,look at your movements when
you are lie occassionaly and look how much you deviate from standard schema I will
present you here
HERE STARTS SCHEMA,PREPARE WELL,this is how 90% of people gets caught while
lying…please don’t use this for evil purposes Hehe :
3)Look a person straight in the eyes and don’t lose eye contact at all costs.
4)Try to look relaxed,sit in your chair or whatever and place legs and arms in
natural position,without making nervous simultaneous moves.Don’t shrug,just be
relaxed as much as you can,don’t make sudden arms or legs movements.Place your
hands next to your body and place your wrists on your quadriceps muscles or on
your knees,palmar side of your hand should look straight to your knees or
quadriceps,the best would be not to make moves with hands or legs at all if
possible
5)don’t show any expressions on your face,cause if you say something and your
gesture comes after that you are fucked up(police uses this technique while
questioning),do not move your head,do not drop your view from their eyes
6)try not to show any emotion just look straight in their eyes,they will focus
on your mouth,nose and cheeks;if these three don’t show anything,you have good
chances
7)If you laugh,or smile,it should be ironic,pathetic or to seem like a crazy
man laugh(like Freddy Krueger),they will say that this guy is crazy which suits
you a lot if you repeat this multiple times;and pretend that you are calmed and
never show that you are surprised,remember you are ready to everything
8)Never be defensive if they are accusing you of something,try to say something
that will not convince them that you are defending in a panic attack
9)Do not change your current location,don’t try to go away,stay in your place
and never forget that pathetic smile,and of course if he is touching you or
something like that,you may freely say:”It is not your problem cause you are
gay,but I am not,go to gayclub” or something similar
10)Never place anything between you and your “interlocutor”,I mean objects or
any kind of suspicious behaviour like stay away or something like that,look his
eyes,show no emotions and don’t forget patetic laugh,and always repeat inside
yourself:”Who does he think he is?I am smarter than this moron,he won’t destroy
my moral”
11)Never ask question when he makes a question as a form of repeating…If he
says “I saw you”,don’t tell “You saw me?!”,better would be “It really isn’t my
problem cause you are occuring vision problems.Are you thinking about visiting
a doctor?”,and if you are stoned and looking one spot it might be suspicious as
well,but you may simply look one spot and keep your mouth shut,and always use
ironic laugh or not saying a damn word,this will be harder to recognize
12)Never use any believes in answers,answer always 100% directly,for
example:”Are you sleeping with my girlfriend”,answer:”Already told you,no.”Do
not ever improvise answers.And of course,if he keeps his mouth shut,use that
time to think answers,not for talking…some people are breaking their fears
through talk
13)The hardest part if he is asking you for explanation – you will need to
think it in 1-2 seconds behing your answer…make sure it is good and your answer
is not late
14)do not emphasize any word,talk quietly and very calmly,make sure that your
grammar is correct,cause this can mean that you are “cutting your speech” cause
your brain cannot think fast and this trick will also help him to catch you
15)do not make voice changes,do not lift head and eyes,especially eyeborrows in
the end of an answer,this is very well known as a sign of suspicious behaviour
16)don’t talk about bad sides of other peoples,behave like you don’t give a
f*ck about everything,never ask him is he believing you or not,hide this inside
of yourself,pretend that you are interested if person is understanding
you,pretend that you are 100% in this conversation,that “you are giving your
best to help”
17)Projection – this is when someone speaks of something he did,and uses other
persons to project his act – example:if you did something,you say:My brother
did …DO NOT DO THAT ALL COSTS,simply say “I already told you I didn’t do
that.It is not my problem cause your intelligence is so low,I may recommend you
some books to increase it.”
18)Make sure that you ask questions that are related to the subject during the
conversation and don’t forget to ask something out of thema,for example:”Have
you slept with some girl last night?I heard loud screams from your
house”.:hehe:Not only that will irritiate him,it will also make the job harder
19)If he changes subject,DO NOT SHOW RELIEF!Be the same,calm…never say “Why
would I lie?”,instead of that “If you are not smart enough to see who is right,then
something is not ok with your intelligence”.
20)Never give precise answers,answer only what he is asking you;and never ask
questions that are providing more details about his info source,as I already
said,you don’t give a f*ck about that,and never mention that you NEVER DID
SOMETHING HE IS ACCUSING YOU OFF.
21)If you say “I don’t want you to think,I wouldn’t like to be thought that
way,I am not going to ruin your emotions…” and similar stuff,this is epic
fail…if he has brain,he will realize very quickly that chances of your “truth”
are decreasing rapidly
22)Don’t offer alternative answers,never put pathetic smile off your face,if he
says:”Why are you laughing?”,you may always say:”Because I am talking to
someone who’s IQ is lower that wooden pole.”Smile may also mean that you are
lying,but if it is pathetic and ironic enough,I highly doubt he will be that
smart
23)This is very hard to mask – anxiety,faster pulse,sweating,deeper
breath,harder swallowing(my worst nightmare problem),focusing level might fall
if you are tired or frightened,there are some interruptions in conversation…If
you mask this you are GODS AND PROFESSIONAL LIARS!
24)Dubious facts and answers are not proper option.Don’t you ever create
moralizing about someone did something that you never would or…you know,this is
calling personality spamming and this is very old trick in which you are trying
to say that you are innocent,good person…As I already mention,look cold as ice
and simple answers.
25)if you know what the person like,you may try triggering points…I will write
a thread about that when I have some time,I am very tired now,but don’t worry
you will be informed on time
26)try not to get caught in lying my friends cause if you are caught once you
will always be suspicious…Happy lying!